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hey everyone before i play the

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skinwalker ranch segment from the

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previous podcast i wanted to talk about

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that 1.6

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gigahertz signal um and i went over to

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twitter to take a look to see if i could

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find more information and i did and this

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comes from a uapx account

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and they are writing there has been a

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lot of talk about the strange 1.6

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gigahertz signal at skinwalker ranch yes

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travis taylor told us about told us uapx

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a specific frequency to look for during

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our catalina expedition yes we saw it we

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saw a similar

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at

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swr

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as well so that catalina investigation

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was that william shatner document a

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documentary

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a tear in the sky and he goes on to say

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that while the the presence of the

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signal

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isn't necessarily anomalous because that

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frequency uh can be used for uh it's

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pretty close to like gps satellites and

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uh

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medical devices and video transmissions

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especially at 1600 megahertz at least

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that that's what he wrote here uh it is

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he's more concerned about the data

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inside that frequency and uh i guess

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that maybe didn't come across or at

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least i didn't hear that come across in

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the skinwalker ranch uh season

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uh but they do see that frequency pop up

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when they see ufo activity

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hopefully that meets makes everything

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more confusing for everyone

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so here is the skinwalker ranch segment

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it was the

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final episode of skinwalker ranch season

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three

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and i captured some clips they didn't

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want me to capture the clips but i did

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and this is the final evidence this is

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the evidence that they are presenting to

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not only the nation but the actual

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governor of utah uh where skinwalker

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ranch is located so they're in this room

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they got the governor they got the owner

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of the ranch brandon fugel they got the

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uh the ranch manager and they also have

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george knapp noted author host of of

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coast to coast am on certain days

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and uh

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investigative reporters so they're all

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in the room they're presenting evidence

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and

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they got this first little piece here

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where

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they did a brand new image mapping of

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the entire ranch where they're they're

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they're piecing together all these

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little points of data i think they're

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using some kind of lidar or something

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and so they can get a topological

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3d

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rendering of the entire ranch and when

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they did this they detected some

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anomalies about 100 feet off the ground

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maybe even 300 feet off the ground and

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this long string

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of weird points that

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when rendered it just looks like a black

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uh piece of smoke that's just kind of

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elongated they don't know what it is and

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there's two of these things one is over

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uh the mesa the the other one is pretty

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close to our a circular rock formation

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that native americans have noted is a

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sacred site so here is their them

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talking about this

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the day after pete kelsey conducted his

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photogrammetry scan of the ranch he sent

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eric all of his compiled data files for

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us to review

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well i've got only about a billion data

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points of course this comes out of pete

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kelsey's recent survey work

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this is a three-dimensional model it's

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point cloud data

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what it is is individual points that

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have been located through a complex

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algorithm

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coming out of all these thousands of

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pictures that he's taken

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so you take all those images you stitch

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them together you get a

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three-dimensional model that's

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incredible oh yeah yeah so i've been

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diving into this and turns out there are

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some

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very interesting artifacts showing up

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whoa you might i just did you see it

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yeah okay in the sky oh right there yes

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oh weird yes

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that looks like that's a whole bunch of

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points right there oh it is well what

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would cause it to do that if that's up

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that's the question

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look at this structure

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this phantom structure that's sticking

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up in the sky

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this is odd i got to tell you uh

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wow i think it was really prominent from

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here it's like it's a yeah

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some sort of

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it looks more than 100 feet in here

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another anomaly they don't know what it

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then they move on to talk about that

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weird signal at the

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1.6 i think it's megahertz uh they

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reached out to a few people to confirm

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if maybe other people have noticed this

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there is another ufo investigation group

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i believe in the west coast that

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confirmed that they have picked up the

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signal when ufos or uaps are cited they

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also talked to luis elizondo from atip

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he confirmed that in fact that they did

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uh measure a signal right around that

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when these uh weird aerial phenomena

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so they don't really know what it means

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uh other people have speculated that the

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megahertz range is used for signal

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jamming

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um and it may be of terrestrial origin

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but it's used to jam signals or

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obfuscate other signals

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so they don't they don't really know

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what it is but it's a it's a data point

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that seems to occur every time these

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ufos happen now they were digging

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through uh parts of the mesa to try to

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get to

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this cavernous interior that they think

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is there they think that there's some

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sort of large object

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in this mesa so they hired this drilling

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company to drill right in the side of

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this bugger and they got about three or

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four hundred feet in and they hit

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something they hit something uh metallic

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the material was coming out they got the

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weird wafer-like metallic substance

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analyzed and here's them talking about

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this strange material

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to the local university here and had

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them do an analysis with a scanning

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electron microscope and do

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precise elemental analysis makeup of

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this material the interesting thing

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about the analysis that we got tellurium

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is only on one side

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and europium which is on the other side

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now tellurium

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and europium are two of the most rare

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materials on the planet

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it was fused

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can that happen

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naturally if it were going to be made on

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it would have to be done deep under the

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crust miles deep in a geological process

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there's no volcanic processes happening

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there on the ranch or in the uintah

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basin that that we know of the only

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way to create this would be an asteroid

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impact

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but what we're missing

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from this asteroid is uh we're missing

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nickel we're missing iridium we're

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missing some other things that would be

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there if it were an asteroid this bears

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a lot of resemblance to things that were

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made in a furnace

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as if this is perhaps

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an engineered material

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that protected it from heat on re-entry

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this material makeup is very similar to

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that ceramic

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so the the governor is sitting there

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listening and they present one final

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piece of evidence and this happened on

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one of the last experiments where they

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had these two or three

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giant laser beams shooting up into an

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apex apex about 3000 feet over the ranch

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where they believe an anomaly is

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um and as they were doing this they were

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going to shoot a giant rocket straight

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this these these lasers to try to

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provoke a reaction and get some

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measurements uh uh and collect some data

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uh the rocket kind of misfired it didn't

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work out the way they hoped they fired

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another one but when they reviewed some

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of the footage they saw a ufo appear and

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it was a bright ball of light that

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appeared and it disappeared it zigged in

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and then it zigged out and as it was

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almost kind of dissipated or phased into

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some sort of portal

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or it cloaked and disappeared

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and this is uh them talking about

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this final piece of evidence and then

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their theory about what may be going on

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this is through the lens of a camera

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that is tasked with surveying the skies

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and i'll draw your attention to this

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part of the screen

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clearly we have an object something

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luminous moving

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towards the apex of that configuration

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of lasers being broadcast upward from

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the triangle

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and it just i mean it just goes away

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yeah wow

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what is the theory of what the

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explanation could be well what if some

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of the stories

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that we keep hearing about from the

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ancient native tribes and petroglyphs

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that from all different kinds of folks

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that have been to the ranch that there's

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a portal

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access

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on the ranch what if that's true

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it could be what we just saw

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this may be a particular point of

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for a wormhole or a stargate some type

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of interstellar interaction

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one of the stories that's been told from

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the sherman and bigelow era that caught

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the attention of the dia the defense

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intelligence agency was about a hole in

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the sky

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call it a portal

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the rancher would see these things open

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up it's dusk here it's afternoon over

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there it's like you're looking in

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through a hole in the sky to another

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place

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aliens

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so that is it their their best theory

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right now is that there is some sort of

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portal where these objects are coming in

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and out of uh this is their their avenue

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this is their doorway this is their port

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and they're using it and sometimes those

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legends those myths are true is what

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they're saying so i like that they're

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indulging in some of the native american

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folklore and tales and they're taking it

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serious and they got some pretty

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interesting footage

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whether or not it is good enough for

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some people

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uh that's uh that's left to be seen uh

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one of those people that for whatever

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reason now joe is on my radar is mick

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west

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last podcast and i checked out his

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interview

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uh and in conversation where with eric

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weinstein now i'm just being a fed mick

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west tweets over and over again

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and now i i start looking at his tweets

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and i start to get frustrated because

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in my opinion

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mick west is a [\h__\h] [\h__\h] and

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i don't know what to do about it

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i did i honest to goodness like i said

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with the chemtrail [\h__\h] like

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again it's all this straw man [\h__\h] and

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the guy is a prick he's a total prick

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so he just to reiterate he had a

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conversation with eric weinstein and

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eric weinstein very respected scientist

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uh

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he's new to the ufo

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topic

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uh i believe politely and respectfully

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asked mick west to stop being such a

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[\h__\h] uh to and those are my words to

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hey he basically hey mick could you

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please be a little nicer to people that

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want to come forward with ufo evidence

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so they don't feel so apprehensive

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presenting uh this pretty far out there

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what used to be considered nonsensical

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stories

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so we can collect the data and see

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what's true or not now mick west uh i

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think he pretty much said okay you know

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what i will do my best as long as you do

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your best

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and so uh as of like uh a couple hours

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ago this is from the 15th

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uh mick west uh hold on maybe i gotta

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bring this back up on the screen it did

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not

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this back up on screen

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mick west tweeted out now that i am uh

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now that he's in my timeline he tweeted

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out saying this

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the ufo community complains of stigma

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alien jokes and general incredu

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incredulity preventing serious

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incredulity incredulity

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i don't give a [\h__\h]

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wrong

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uh uh

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preventing serious research there's some

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truth to that but perhaps scientists

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also see the vitriol and mockery poured

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on more skeptical investigators like

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myself and decide it's not for

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them uh

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i've got a rocky mountain west i just

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want to say yeah i know

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isn't it [\h__\h] up he says mike's still

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going on farc i see yeah i do yeah i i

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go i go there for some uh strangers

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yeah

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i do i go to farc.com to collect some

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news stories and to see how the other

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um

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but then mick west finishes uh up with

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this i got a thick skin it's not

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affecting me

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and i know a lot of it comes from

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personal experience but

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why are you

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hashtag ufo twitter possibly

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contributing to the very thing you

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bemoan will scientists come into the

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field where they get attacked if they

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give the wrong answer

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and so i and i

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that's not how science works

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listen these scientists are very

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sensitive

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mm-hmm and uh what i would say to mick

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and i really debated even replying to

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this is that for the past 70 years

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mainstream uh news and this mainstream

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science have made fun of people with ufo

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experiences calling them crazy psychotic

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wrong uh making up the stories for

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attention over and over and over and

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over again

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and now that he

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mick west is involved in researching

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ufos he wants to put it on the ufo

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community to be nicer to the group of

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people who make fun of them

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that he wants he wants mick west wants

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the group that had been made fun of and

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ridiculed

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for decades to be the bigger person

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and accept that some of these uh

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scientists

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will ultimately make fun of them and and

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uh diminish their experiences and they

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should just do it if you want serious

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scientific research involved instead of

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them being the bigger person i mean i

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wouldn't who's who's going to this guy

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for anything like this this is now

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ethical advice

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yes it is he's he's telling ufo

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people or you hashtag ufo twitter how to

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act if they want this subject to be

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taken seriously and if they don't act a

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certain way maybe scientists won't even

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get into the field to research it

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because uh these scientists are super

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sensitive

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now i understand there's there's

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gatekeepers in every community there's

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gatekeepers in the metal community

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they're people that are that are upset

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that metallica had their song in

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stranger things the uh there's people

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that are upset that uh star wars is not

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the way they think it should be there's

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people that are upset that i'm that guy

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i'll get keep the [\h__\h] out of that

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listen i'm every one of these people but

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we do an entertainment show and and we

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make fun of everything mick west who is

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trying to seriously

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well he's debunking ufo experiences and

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and supporting what ufo experience is he

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though i don't know i don't know uh he

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has been given an opportunity

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to visit skinwalker ranch

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and maybe experience some of the

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phenomenon that has been going on there

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uh some of the the evidence that we

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played here at least some of the the

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claims and he hasn't done it yet you

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would imagine if you're a serious

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researcher you would jump at the chance

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to go out there

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um

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a podcast associated a friend of mine

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tony from the confessionals he he used

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his own money to not even go to

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skinwalker ranch but go to the property

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next door because he likes the topic so

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much

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uh and you'd figure mick west would jump

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at the chance to seriously investigate

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all the happenings out there so he could

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debunk it and call the other people

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there crazy lunatic uh maybe just doing

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it for uh

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money and promotion but he hasn't done

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it yet so we need to get a gofundme for

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mick west to go to skinwalker ranch and

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live there for one month and report back

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okay but he has to fly coach okay

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we know he doesn't have a job apparently

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all he does for a living is debunk

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things like what the [\h__\h] does he do for

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a living does he have a wikipedia um

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let's see here this is see the british

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science writer skeptical investigator

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and retired video game programmer yes

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that's him yeah yeah so no he doesn't

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know wikipedia well he runs a

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metabunk.org

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and a funk

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meta bunker that's an organization this

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is serious everybody i would say that

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that sounds like a uh

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name of a

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gay porno you know what for like a a

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video game programmer you'd imagine he

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would know some front-end developers so

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the site wouldn't look like it was

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wordpress from 1995.

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like

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it looks awful look farc is a better

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designed website than this

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[\h__\h] [\h__\h]

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all right you know i like to throw my

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trash in the toilet i know that

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so i mean i don't really want to pick on

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mick west but i will continue to do so

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for the next 10 minutes

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um

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would you have a conversation with him

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joe

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i just we had a twitter back and forth

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and that's it and he is real unrelenting

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like he totally under he will just pound

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pound pound you will send him something

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and it's just like send the same picture

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over and over and say this is good like

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he's a [\h__\h] like he's the shilliest

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chill he's king of the shells

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would you be opposed to having him on

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actually i would rather get in the

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all right

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uh because i've been thinking about i

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just i just saw that image you sent me i

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put that up

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i've been thinking about the reason i

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sent the reason i sent uh cretchet this

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image

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has it on screen right now it is the

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mark of an educated mind to entertain a

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thought without accepting it mick west

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is the exact opposite of that he's like

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[\h__\h] you [\h__\h] your ideas [\h__\h] your

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evidence [\h__\h] everything i'm i'm mick

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west and i decide what real

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is for everybody

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to a certain degree i can appreciate

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that asshole-ishness

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um

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but when it comes down to like uh

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certainly

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these subjects

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and that it is very tough to collect

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evidence for

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ufo related topics and the paranormal in

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general that the experiences are very

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fleeting they can last uh one to five

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seconds and uh yeah technically there

533
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should be more evidence that the public

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has uh but everything that's collected

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so far is what we have uh we don't know

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what evidence has been collected by the

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government

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and just hasn't been presented in public

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i imagine quite a bit if the stories are

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true

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at least from gary mckinnon the hacker

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from the uk and what he found on nasa

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servers if those are even uh half true

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then there is a considerable amount of

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evidence that has been withheld from the

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public and uh people like mick west

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now even if you went midwest went to

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skinwalker ranch and had these

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incredible experiences

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and he he had the poltergeist encounters

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he saw uh ufos uh he ran into a dog man

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or a bigfoot i don't even know if he

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would report it back

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i don't even know if he can convey his

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personal experiences there because there

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might not be any tangible proof or

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evidence that he can present to people

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and he would wind up looking crazy the

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same people that he bemoans and doesn't

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like engaging with or makes fun of

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now he says he doesn't really make fun

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00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:11,440
of them um he may not make fun of them

563
00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:12,559
per se

564
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:15,280
but with your experience joe going back

565
00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:16,400
and forth

566
00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:18,880
he seems to really kind of be less than

567
00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:21,520
diplomatic when it comes to these topics

568
00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:24,080
no he's very pushy okay

569
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:26,720
yeah that's that's why i even

570
00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:28,240
i thought better about even trying to

571
00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:30,640
engage with him on twitter i may do so

572
00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:33,360
only to invite him on the show uh

573
00:21:37,350 --> 00:21:35,600
i would only invite him on a show joe if

574
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:37,360
you're okay with it and if cretchet's

575
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:39,600
okay with us i'm totally okay with it i

576
00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:41,600
like talking to people who can be civil

577
00:21:45,669 --> 00:21:43,600
but he's not a very civil person no he's

578
00:21:47,669 --> 00:21:45,679
not okay well then i mean you listened

579
00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:47,679
to him with weinstein what did you do

580
00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:49,600
you think he was civil i thought he was

581
00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:51,919
civil only because it was eric weinstein

582
00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:54,080
if it was somebody else that he didn't

583
00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:56,159
know or respect like he doesn't know who

584
00:21:59,430 --> 00:21:58,320
we are and you wouldn't respect us like

585
00:22:00,870 --> 00:21:59,440
he would probably listen to one of our

586
00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:00,880
clips about skinwalker ranch or

587
00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:02,000
something like that and he's like oh

588
00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:04,480
these guys are are stupid [\h__\h] and

589
00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:06,559
we are playing flip about the broken

590
00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:08,960
phones we'll have a different take on it

591
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:10,240
sure

592
00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:14,400
i i want to know like i again it's like

593
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:16,720
who is this guy and why does he have

594
00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:19,039
this authority like what gives

595
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:20,080
like that's why i asked about the

596
00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:23,440
wikipedia page who the [\h__\h] is he

597
00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:26,320
uh it's like klaus schwab like nobody

598
00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:28,320
voted for you you prick

599
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:30,159
you know if mick west was getting

600
00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:32,640
bludgeoned to death by bigfoot and the

601
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:35,760
dog man and an alien i'd just piss on

602
00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:37,600
him i don't give a [\h__\h] about this guy

603
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:39,200
and i think he's a dick

604
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:41,840
what is your problem

605
00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:43,039
that's what i would say i would just ask

606
00:22:46,270 --> 00:22:44,559
him all these alex jones questions what

607
00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:46,280
is 2s

608
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:48,799
lgbtqia plus yeah maybe alex jones would

609
00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:50,640
do our interview for him what sex are

610
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:52,240
you or what sex are you into let's talk

611
00:22:57,510 --> 00:22:54,960
about sex

612
00:22:59,110 --> 00:22:57,520
rambo saito

613
00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:59,120
i i think we could ruin the entire

614
00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:01,120
interview we can invite them on and just

615
00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:03,440
do that stuff so just tell them alex is

616
00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:05,440
on the line just another camera yeah

617
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,559
from

618
00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:08,640
boccato

619
00:23:11,909 --> 00:23:10,480
it is called

620
00:23:16,909 --> 00:23:11,919
mitchell

621
00:23:24,110 --> 00:23:20,830
regulation will somebody look up what uh

622
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:24,120
trivial literal

623
00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:26,320
regurgitation is i don't know about

624
00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:28,880
pronouncing that right

625
00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:34,950
just throw all those questions at mick

626
00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:36,799
and now mick west is on twitter going

627
00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:38,799
after uh michyukaku

628
00:23:43,510 --> 00:23:41,760
um going after him about the aliens and

629
00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:43,520
uh michio kaku

630
00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:47,039
astrophysicist he has been one of the

631
00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:51,120
the harshest critics to ufo uh

632
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:53,679
the ufo topic in general it's only as of

633
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:55,279
2017

634
00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:57,279
since the new york times article came

635
00:24:01,029 --> 00:23:59,120
out and the atip program and that the

636
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:01,039
government has been a little bit more

637
00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:04,400
honest about this stuff has the uh

638
00:24:09,029 --> 00:24:06,240
regular normal mainstream scientific

639
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:09,039
community be have been somewhat open to

640
00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:12,159
the topic and nick is there to preserve

641
00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:14,159
the old guard for and for whatever

642
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:16,320
reason maybe he just does it maybe it

643
00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:19,120
upsets his reality and he's probably

644
00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:21,440
genuinely curious about the topic i

645
00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:22,880
suppose

646
00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:25,360
um but it doesn't seem like he he goes

647
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:27,200
deep and i'll take a look at his

648
00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:29,840
chemtrail debunking and compare and

649
00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:31,679
contrast it with some of the other stuff

650
00:24:34,950 --> 00:24:33,600
maybe i debunk uh

651
00:24:36,549 --> 00:24:34,960
the debunker

652
00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:36,559
oh you're gonna double bunk them i'm

653
00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:42,149
okay okay early life wait are you gonna

654
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:44,400
rebunk are you gonna rebunk his debunk

655
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:47,200
yeah oh i like that brie bunk well you

656
00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:49,679
gotta go at that angle okay i'll read

657
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:51,039
them to the teeth

658
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:52,640
i'll rebunk them

659
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:55,120
here for a rebunking

660
00:24:59,190 --> 00:24:56,880
okay maybe i'll i'll tweet that to him

661
00:25:02,149 --> 00:24:59,200
come on my show and we're gonna rebunk

662
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:02,159
you come on my show joe i will say that

663
00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:04,559
to him and he's like who's joe

664
00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:05,440
sorry

665
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:07,279
okay okay okay so cretchet found a

666
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:09,360
wikipedia do you want to go through it

667
00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:11,360
i'd love to there's nothing

668
00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:13,760
just let's just touch on it we'll just

669
00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:15,279
ignite

670
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:17,200
we'll sniff the wikipedia articles here

671
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:19,200
just lean over gently sniff it

672
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:21,679
yes okay so wes grew up in the small

673
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:29,669
bradford hey we know of bradford yeah

674
00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:30,880
england

675
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:32,559
as a child he was fascinated by the

676
00:25:36,789 --> 00:25:35,039
paranormal ufo and

677
00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:36,799
stories of alien abductions also

678
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:38,799
believing he had psychic abilities as he

679
00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:41,039
grew older he came to believe that these

680
00:25:44,870 --> 00:25:43,840
phenomena were not real and instead

681
00:25:47,029 --> 00:25:44,880
that

682
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:47,039
there were rational explanations to

683
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:48,720
explain them

684
00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:51,039
i used to be quote i used to believe in

685
00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:52,960
all this stuff and then i stopped

686
00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:55,919
believing in all this stuff and i guess

687
00:26:00,789 --> 00:25:58,640
just figuring out why this stuff was

688
00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:00,799
wrong became interesting to me boy that

689
00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:02,880
is the dumbest quote i've ever heard oh

690
00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:03,760
really

691
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:05,600
so he used to believe in stuff that he

692
00:26:09,909 --> 00:26:07,600
no longer believes and see if there was

693
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:09,919
stuff and then i believed in it and then

694
00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:11,760
there were the stuff that i believed and

695
00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:14,559
became stuff i don't believe in okay

696
00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:16,720
that's an actual quote

697
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:18,960
in early adulthood west found himself

698
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:22,240
using a pre-internet modern based

699
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:25,919
bulletin board called fidonet to argue

700
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:27,760
that's not what internet means that

701
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:30,159
means pre-web not pre-internet

702
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:32,480
yeah can we uh debunk the

703
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:34,159
claim of that yeah

704
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:36,240
yeah let's set fire to this wikipedia

705
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:37,039
page

706
00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:38,480
does it say that he went on fighter net

707
00:26:42,789 --> 00:26:40,000
to argue

708
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:42,799
it does it literally says that so he he

709
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:45,520
has a history of being combative yeah

710
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:48,640
and uh asshole-ish yeah yep but joe that

711
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:50,559
sentence this passive he he found

712
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:52,559
himself on the he didn't know how he got

713
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:53,279
there

714
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:54,960
he found himself on the bulletin board

715
00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:56,720
missing time he woke up on the internet

716
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:59,039
oh yeah 14 seconds are gone now i'm on

717
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:00,240
photo net

718
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:06,630
uh to argue with people who are using

719
00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:09,360
it to spread conspiracy theories okay so

720
00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:11,120
uh all of a sudden he became an

721
00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:13,600
authority so he's a video game

722
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:15,840
programmer apparently west co-founded

723
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:18,640
the video game development company never

724
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:21,120
soft entertainment so he's got a hard on

725
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:22,559
constantly

726
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:25,360
never soft entertainment

727
00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:26,880
you're right joe i did

728
00:27:31,470 --> 00:27:29,840
jesus boner

729
00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:31,480
in july

730
00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:35,200
1994 with joel jewett

731
00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:37,279
what kind of game did he put out what's

732
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:39,200
the value let's look up never soft

733
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:43,430
was it

734
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:44,480
didn't they just

735
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:46,320
oh yeah here we go neversoft is known

736
00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:48,480
for spiderman tony hawk and guitar hero

737
00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:50,399
video game franchises okay so that's

738
00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:52,320
pretty cool

739
00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:54,480
before the internet okay

740
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:56,320
and wes was heavily involved in

741
00:28:01,190 --> 00:27:58,799
programming the first five games of tony

742
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:01,200
hawk series the company was acquired by

743
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:03,120
activision so this is how he got his

744
00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:04,399
money okay

745
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:05,760
got butt out good for him i mean i'm not

746
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:07,679
going to begrudge that no

747
00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:08,720
name i mean you could have named it

748
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:10,000
boner entertainment but they called it

749
00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:12,399
neversoft so smart move

750
00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:14,559
it's like microsoft

751
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:18,559
it is tiny limp

752
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:23,669
micropenis.com

753
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,990
micropain is 98.

754
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:32,149
so he's got a lot of money he's got time

755
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,159
and so he goes on the internet debunking

756
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:36,480
conspiracy theories and honestly if i

757
00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:39,360
had a lot of money and i could just sit

758
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:41,520
around and do podcasts i'd do a lot more

759
00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:44,399
and i'd probably put out a lot more bs

760
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:46,399
and a lot more fun entertainment and

761
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:48,080
invent my own conspiracies and have a

762
00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:50,159
good time with it that's right yeah and

763
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:51,679
when he's not beating his kids he's

764
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:54,240
neglecting them yes

765
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:58,470
i've worked for a guy one time who

766
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:00,159
bragged about beating his kids he's like

767
00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:02,640
he's the only way to parent yeah he said

768
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:04,159
it like we would do these happy hours

769
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:05,840
and he's like no no man you got to beat

770
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:07,120
him

771
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:11,279
wow he's he was like the boss

772
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:12,720
that's kind of sick

773
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:14,240
he got fired

774
00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:16,000
for beating his kids or for a whole

775
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:18,799
another topic no he he beat us on you

776
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:21,360
know in the office no he just

777
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:22,960
like there was one day he was drunk at

778
00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:24,240
11 a.m

779
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:25,360
oh

780
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:26,480
day drinking

781
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,840
did you beat him that day did you use

782
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:29,520
like i could meet you at 10 30. i have

783
00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:31,279
avoided him at all

784
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:33,279
he this is this is the same guy he's

785
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:35,360
like mick west in a lot of ways like i

786
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:36,240
said

787
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:37,120
you know

788
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:38,080
uh

789
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:40,799
dan rather reported that the fbi helped

790
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,799
build the bomb that went off in the

791
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:44,640
world trade center in 1993 he's like

792
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:46,240
that's [\h__\h] [\h__\h] what are you

793
00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:48,240
[\h__\h] talking about you're just crazy

794
00:29:51,580 --> 00:29:49,440
and it's like

795
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:51,590
all right yeah whatever yeah

796
00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:53,120
[Music]

797
00:29:58,950 --> 00:29:56,080
well i before i invite him on i'll i'll

798
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:58,960
let you guys know and uh

799
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:01,039
then we'll have to set something up and

800
00:30:06,149 --> 00:30:04,240
we'll provide a topic of conversation

801
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:06,159
and we'll have to do our research to

802
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:08,880
i'll see if we can uh debunk the or

803
00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:11,200
rebunk the bunker

804
00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:13,600
you're some kind of bunko artist

805
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:15,679
yeah hey and and before we leave this

806
00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:17,600
topic where you started it on skinwalker

807
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:20,480
ranch i just want to say they like they

808
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:22,000
might as well just say whatever they

809
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:25,679
want like intergalactic space gremlins

810
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:28,880
were coming through the sewer pipes and

811
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:31,360
all of a sudden a dog man emerged from

812
00:30:35,830 --> 00:30:33,279
the bushes over there but it was just a

813
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:35,840
split second and the ufo appeared right

814
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:38,480
above the sun and we couldn't tell you

815
00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:40,960
know what kind of shape it was but then

816
00:30:44,549 --> 00:30:42,799
the werewolf howled

817
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:44,559
in the distance like they're just saying

818
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,840
gobbly cook

819
00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:47,760
bigfoot well

820
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:49,279
you know and their phones are broken i

821
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:51,600
am uh i'm playing i i'm editing these

822
00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:54,320
quick clips down as uh as much as i can

823
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:56,240
so they're not

824
00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:58,799
full-length you know 40-minute shows and

825
00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:00,640
i have to paraphrase a lot of things so

826
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:02,960
there is a lot more to the show a lot

827
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:05,120
more interesting uh presentations than

828
00:31:09,430 --> 00:31:08,080
i'm able to to do here in our in our uh

829
00:31:11,909 --> 00:31:09,440
in our show so

830
00:31:14,310 --> 00:31:11,919
um i agree there's some gobbledygook in

831
00:31:16,389 --> 00:31:14,320
there but i think that travis taylor and

832
00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:16,399
the team over there they do as good uh

833
00:31:21,669 --> 00:31:18,960
of a job as they can do to explain some

834
00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:21,679
of these weird anomalies so hopefully

835
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,640
they'll explain it all on season four in

836
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:26,640
2023

837
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when uh all hell breaks loose

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and you know next year

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season seven of closer explains or

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explained

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wrong [\h__\h]

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clarissa did explain it all

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she's doing skinwalker ranch but just

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think about it next year if we finally

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do get the answer whether there are

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interdimensional importers at skin

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rocker skin walker ranch we're going to

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have the civil war 2.0 we're going to

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have interdimensional portals we're

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going to have

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shortages of everything uh it's going to

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be all happening around the world and

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no one's going to be able to focus on

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the fact that oh by the way there are

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portals they're going to be too

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concerned about getting their next

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[Music]

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